News

Classical Considerations: Harmony and Hostility

Today on TheClassicalStation we’re looking at some of the great rivalries of classical music history and asking you, the listeners, to determine who you think came out ahead! Far from the serene and contemplative world that some of your favorite classical music might suggest, the world of the golden age of classical music was often marked by fierce disagreements and opposing factions vying for aesthetic supremacy. As with all things art, it was not always clear who the winners of these disagreements were. So this week, we’ve gone into the classical station’s library and found pieces that we believe exemplify what made these composers come to loggerheads. We want you to be the deciders, give the following pieces a listen and let us know, who do you think is vindicated by history?

 

Claude Debussy

Claude Debussy
VS

Maurice Ravel

Maurice Ravel

 

These two great French impressionists saw their relationship wax and wane over their creative careers with both personal and musical differences causing tension between them. While it’s doubtless true that the two composers bore some animosity towards one another over the treatment of Debussy’s estranged wife Lilly, Ravel led a small group in supporting her financially after her husband’s abandonment, it’s also the case that the two were being constantly compared in the musical press.1 Musically the distinction between the two has always been between Debussy’s instinctual composition on the one hand and Ravel’s structured and studied work on the other. As American musicologist Arbie Orenstein said: “Debussy was more spontaneous and casual in his composing while Ravel was more attentive to form and craftsmanship.“2

You can hear this difference in their music, too: Debussy’s compositions are, generally, more ambiguous and experimental, preferring more atmospheric and fragmentary melodies to Ravel’s more coherent and straightforwardly emotional themes.

By way of contrast we present Debussy’s haunting and tentative Prélude à l’après-midi d’un faune (1894) and Ravel’s achingly beautiful Jeux D’eau (1901). Which do you prefer?

vs

 


Johannes Brahms

Johannes Brahms
VS

Richard Wagner

Richard Wagner

 

Perhaps the most famous rivalry on this list and certainly the only one to have its own name, the “War of the Romantics” was a disagreement played out in German classical music between the traditionalists, epitomized by Johannes Brahms, and the so-called “New German School” in the form of Richard Wagner.3 Brahms, a genius talent by all metrics, was dedicated to refining and evolving the musical landscape he inherited. This project came to be known as “absolute music” which held that all the emotional and philosophical power of music should be contained in the musical elements themselves e.g. the name of a song should not give a listener a model for how to interpret it.4 Against this proposal came Wagner’s great works, including his operatic works which mixed narrative, acting, literary symbolism and visual art with music to achieve something highly mediated and completely different from the proceeding musical world. Wagner’s revolutionary approach came to be known as “program” music and his supporters in the New German School believed that it charted a path for music to transcend its previous bounds and become something more emotional, philosophical, and inspirational than it had been before.5

To exemplify Brahms’ “absolute music” we’ve selected his Symphony No. 4 in E minor (1885), a piece which values traditional forms (it’s a classic example of a four-movement symphony) while showing off the composers deep well of genius in the complex motivic development it displays. In contrast we have Wagner’s Siegfried Idyll (1870) which, while not an operatic piece, exemplifies Wagner’s programmatic approach: its title blends personal and mythological references, its structure consists in a single evolving movement, and it employs Wagner’s own “leitmotif technique” to create an internal narrative for the piece. Give them a listen, which do you prefer?

vs

 


Sergei Prokofiev

Sergei Prokofiev
VS

Igor Stravinsky

Igor Stravinsky

 

Our final head-to-head involves Russian composers Sergei Prokofiev and Igor Stravinsky. The disagreement between these two classical music greats originates in how each of them viewed emotionality in music: Stravinsky abhorred the idea that one would listen to music for its emotional content rather than beauty or intellectual fascination and likened it to someone trying to escape into drug-induced intoxication.6 Prokofiev disagreed vehemently with this instinct of Stravinsky’s and his compositions reflect an aesthetic much more in keeping with the prevailing sensibilities of the time. As the two composers helmed the ship of Russian classical music quarreling broke out with Stravinsky insisting that Prokofiev was “wasting his time” pursuing his emotionally charged operatic visions, to which Prokofiev responded that Stravinsky “was in no position to lay down a general artistic direction” this disagreement would drive a wedge between them for the majority of their careers.7

To highlight the differences between the intellectual and innovative Stravinsky and the more traditional and deeply emotive compositions of Prokofiev we’ve selected The Rite of Spring (1913) and The Love for Three Oranges: VI. Flight (1919) from each of their repertoires. Listening back to these wonderful pieces it’s clear just how different two geniuses of their craft can be when starting from different ideological positions!

vs

 


As you can see the world of classical music is full of disagreement, and that’s not even considering the personal lives of all involved! We hope you enjoyed the opportunity to hear some of the rivalries your favorite composers had with their peers and we’d love to know how you came down in some of our head-to-head matchups! Please feel free to contact us and let TheClassicalStation know who you think won out!

-Matthew Young

 

Many of the composers referenced above, including Johannes Brahms, Richard Wagner, and Sergei Prokofiev, are featured this fall on TheClassicalStation.org. Please take a look at our Fall 2024 Highlights to see when to tune in, or request a piece directly via one of our Request Programs!

Now Playing

Danse Macabre, Op. 40

Composed by

Camille Saint-Saens (1835-1921)

Performed by

Boston Pops/Fiedler

Label

RCA

Catalog Number

6213

Today's Playlist

12:00pm Menuet antique

Composed by

Maurice Ravel (1875-1937)

Performed by

French National Orchestra/Inbal

12:09pm Gardens of the Villa Taranto

Composed by

Colin Brumby (1933-2018)

Performed by

Rayner/Lynch

12:21pm 1st mvt (Non Allegro) ~ Symphonic Dances, Op. 45

Composed by

Sergei Rachmaninoff (1873-1943)

Performed by

Netherlands Radio Philharmonic Orchestra/Canellakis

12:35pm Piano Quartet Movement in A minor

Composed by

Gustav Mahler (1860-1911)

Performed by

Hope/Neubauer/Finckel/Han

12:49pm Music selected by the announcer

1:01pm Concerto in B flat for Harp and Lute, Op.4 No.6

Composed by

George Frideric Handel (1685–1759)

Performed by

Ellis/Dupre/Philomusica London/Jones

1:16pm Concerto in D for Viola d‘amore, RV 392

Composed by

Antonio Vivaldi (1678-1741)

Performed by

Barsony/Franz Liszt Chamber Orchestra/Rolla

1:31pm 3rd mvt (Lento assai - Allegro vivace) ~ Symphonic Dances, Op. 45

Composed by

Sergei Rachmaninoff (1873-1943)

Performed by

Netherlands Radio Philharmonic Orchestra/Canellakis

1:47pm Goin' Home

Composed by

Antonin Dvorak, arr. William Arms Fisher

Performed by

Weilerstein/Polonsky

1:55pm Londonderry Air ("Danny Boy")

Composed by

Traditional, arr. Fritz Kreisler

Performed by

Ma/Stott

2:00pm Romance in F minor, Op. 11

Composed by

Antonin Dvorak (1841-1904)

Performed by

Stern/Philadelphia Orchestra/Ormandy

2:15pm Musette in D, BWV Anh. 126 ~ Notebook for Anna Magdalena Bach, 1725

Composed by

Johann Sebastian Bach (1685-1750), arr. Alon Sariel

Performed by

Alon Sariel

2:19pm Alia Fantasia in A minor

Composed by

Nicola Matteis (c.1650-1713), arr. Alon Sariel

Performed by

Alon Sariel

2:26pm Ballet Music from Macbeth

Composed by

Giuseppe Verdi (1813-1901)

Performed by

Scottish National Orchestra/Gibson

2:38pm Prelude to Act 1 from Tristan and Isolde

Composed by

Richard Wagner (1813-1883)

Performed by

Los Angeles Philharmonic/Leinsdorf

2:51pm Four dances

Composed by

Thomas Morley (1557-1602), S. Tennant

Performed by

Los Angeles Guitar Quartet

3:00pm Clarinet Concerto No. 7 in B flat

Composed by

Karl Stamitz (1745-1801)

Performed by

Mannheim Chamber Philharmonic/Meyer

3:14pm With Malice Toward None from "Lincoln"

Composed by

John Towner Williams (b.1932)

Performed by

United States Marine Band/Williams

3:21pm Hooray for Hollywood

Composed by

Richard Whiting (1891-1938), arr. John Williams

Performed by

United States Marine Band/Williams

3:27pm Quiet City

Composed by

Aaron Copland (1900-1990)

Performed by

Cincinnati Pops/Kunzel

3:37pm Impromptu in F minor, D. 935 No. 4

Composed by

Franz Schubert (1797-1828)

Performed by

Grigory Sokolov

3:47pm Serenade for Strings in E minor, Op. 20

Composed by

Edward Elgar (1857-1934)

Performed by

Rotterdam Chamber Orch/van Alphen

4:00pm The Cuckoo from The Birds

Composed by

Ottorino Respighi (1879-1936)

Performed by

Atlanta Symphony/Lane

4:06pm Dance of the Knights from Romeo and Juliet: Suite No. 2, Op. 64b

Composed by

Sergei Prokofiev (1891-1953)

Performed by

Danish National Radio Symphony/Kitayenko

4:16pm Norwegian Dance, Op. 35 No. 1

Composed by

Edvard Grieg (1843–1907)

Performed by

Utah Symphony Orchestra/Abravanel

4:23pm 1st Movement ~ Piano Trio in D, Op. 101 No. 5

Composed by

Anton Reicha (1770–1836)

Performed by

Trio Bohemo

4:36pm Danube Legends

Composed by

Julius Fucik (1872-1916)

Performed by

Czech Philharmonic/Neuman

4:48pm String Symphony No. 10 in B minor

Composed by

Felix Mendelssohn (1809-1847)

Performed by

Orpheus Chamber Orchestra

5:00pm Sevilla from Suite espanola, Op. 47

Composed by

Isaac Albeniz (1860-1909)

Performed by

Thibaud Garcia

5:07pm Fantasy on Hungarian Folk Themes

Composed by

Franz Liszt (1811-1886)

Performed by

Katsaris/Philadelphia Orchestra/Ormandy

5:24pm Trio Sonata No. 5 in G

Composed by

George Frideric Handel (attributed)

Performed by

Convivium

5:32pm Court Ball Waltz

Composed by

Joseph Lanner (1801-1843)

Performed by

Cincinnati Pops/Kunzel

5:40pm Symphony No. 4 in F

Composed by

Jiri Benda (1722-1795)

Performed by

Prague Chamber Orchestra/Benda

5:49pm Ballade No. 3 in A flat, Op. 47

Composed by

Frederic Chopin (1810-1849)

Performed by

Walter Hautzig

5:59pm Thunder & Lightning (a polka)

Composed by

Johann Strauss Jr. (1825-1899)

Performed by

Vienna Philharmonic/Karajan

6:03pm French Suite No. 1 in D minor, BWV 812

Composed by

Johann Sebastian Bach (1685-1750)

Performed by

Glenn Gould

6:16pm Reverie

Composed by

Claude Debussy (1862-1918)

Performed by

Minnesota Orchestra/Oue

6:21pm Lute Sonata in C minor

Composed by

Bernhard Joachim Hagen (1720-1787)

Performed by

Robert Barto

6:35pm Andante from Cello Concerto in G, "Military"

Composed by

Jacques Offenbach (1819-1880)

Performed by

Harnoy/Bournemouth Symphony/Almeida

6:43pm Music selected by the announcer

7:01pm Symphony No. 045 in F sharp minor, "Farewell"

Composed by

Josef Haydn (1732-1809)

Performed by

English Concert/Pinnock

7:27pm Piano Concerto in A minor, Op. 54

Composed by

Robert Schumann (1810-1856)

Performed by

Downes/San Francisco Ballet Orchestra/West

8:00pm Violin Concerto in D, Op. 77

Composed by

Johannes Brahms (1833-1897)

Performed by

Heifetz/Chicago Symphony/Reiner

8:36pm Piano Sonata No. 11 in A, K. 331

Composed by

Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart (1756-1791)

Performed by

Murray Perahia

9:01pm Clarinet Concerto No. 1 in F minor, Op. 73

Composed by

Carl Maria von Weber (1786-1826)

Performed by

Ottensamer/Berlin Philharmonic/Jansons

9:22pm Sonata Reminiscenza in A minor, Op. 38 No. 1

Composed by

Nikolai Medtner (1880-1951)

Performed by

Vassily Primakov

9:37pm Platee Ballet Suite

Composed by

Jean-Philippe Rameau (1683-1764)

Performed by

European Union Baroque Orchestra/Goodman

10:00pm Clair de lune from Suite Bergamasque

Composed by

Claude Debussy (1862-1918)

Performed by

A. Romero

10:07pm String Octet in E Flat, Op. 20

Composed by

Felix Mendelssohn (1809-1847)

Performed by

Kodaly Quartet/Auer String Quartet

10:41pm Flute Concerto in D

Composed by

Saverio Mercadante (1795-1870)

Performed by

Rampal/English Chamber Orchestra/Scimone

11:01pm Symphony No. 047 in G, "Palindrome"

Composed by

Josef Haydn (1732-1809)

Performed by

Austro-Hungarian Haydn Orchestra/Fischer

11:22pm Polonaise in C minor, Op. 40 No. 2

Composed by

Frederic Chopin (1810-1849)

Performed by

Idil Biret

11:32pm Harpsichord Concerto No. 3 in D, BWV 1054

Composed by

Johann Sebastian Bach (1685-1750)

Performed by

Pinnock/English Concert

11:51pm Music selected by the announcer